Assifa on internet in lakewood
Next Wednesday the lakewood rosh yeshivas and mashgiach are holding a large public event about the internet strongly urging all to attend.
What took so long, the lack of action until now makes the solution much more difficult as it has become part of the fabric of many daily routines.
The internet unquestionably is of the highest form of poison whose lethal ingredients have seeped into so many homes, cracking or shaking their foundations.
Sadly it can't be prohibited cart blanche. It has become necessary for (among others) :
Bear in mind too that most new cell phones come with it.
The solution lies primarily in the stigmatizing of and educating about it :"A good jewish home distances itself from it!!"
Perhaps some impact would be had if when you place your kid in school, you must sign that you won't look at anything that Rabbi XYZ would deem inappropriate.
What took so long, the lack of action until now makes the solution much more difficult as it has become part of the fabric of many daily routines.
The internet unquestionably is of the highest form of poison whose lethal ingredients have seeped into so many homes, cracking or shaking their foundations.
Sadly it can't be prohibited cart blanche. It has become necessary for (among others) :
- doing business, making money (no exact definition for that);
- school (woman have to support husbands in kollel),
- and miscellaneous usages( try signing up for Geico offline).
Bear in mind too that most new cell phones come with it.
The solution lies primarily in the stigmatizing of and educating about it :"A good jewish home distances itself from it!!"
Perhaps some impact would be had if when you place your kid in school, you must sign that you won't look at anything that Rabbi XYZ would deem inappropriate.
posted by Yeshiva Orthodoxy
at 1:47 PM
13 Comments:
i am sure thay will have a live stream of the asifa on the internet
Yup, if the yeshivish community needs anything, it's more stigmatization!
Stigmitizing, shaming one (or something) is a very effective and useful weapon towards shaping human behavior. We all care what others think.
How does signing a Piece of Paper solve the problem?
It dosen't if you have no conscience and Yiras Shamayim.
No, stigmatizing only works if there is one homogenous community. With the sort of hetrogenous communities that exist nowadays, those who are "stigmatized" for their internet use will simply become part of the more "modern black hat" oilam, where the internet is ubiquitous.
I'm not sure that we shouldn't have required and acceptable standards due to some in the yeshiva orthodoxy community will begin to identify more leftwards.
Right is right.Halacha is halacha.
It wasn't a question of whether you should or shouldn't have required standards. It was a question of whether it is effective to stigmatize people - you claimed that stigmatizing is a very effective and useful tool. The fact is that it isn't, because people can move just the slightest bit "leftward" and avoid the stigma.
The only effect this would have is to shrink your community to exclude more people. Which is fine, if that's your goal. Heck, I'm sure in favor of you Lakewood right-wingers having as few people as possible in your camp compared to the more "moderate" frum crowd. Why don't you try to push out as many people as possible? You'd probably say you are just taking quality over quantity.
Pretty soon, you can be just like the Israeli Litvish Chareidi community where there is an incredibly strong stigma on anyone who earns an honest living. They can't marry off their kids to anyone respectable or even send their kids to many schools and are not even permitted to buy apartments in some neighbourhoods. But hey, right is right and halacha is halacha. Do the schools in Lakewood yet follow the helige Eretz Yisroel fashion of excluding kids whose mothers have driver's licenses? Halacha is halacha!
Also, you are aware that this blog of yours is on the INTERNET, aren't you?
We're talking about facing up to a severe modern day callenge.
I'm begining with the premise the internet should be avoided at all reasonable costs.
Rabbonim who seek to keep our community as pure as possible can not be limp out of concern for shrinking? the charedi population. If and where something is wrong it should and will be made persona non grata.
As far as that dreaded "heilege" yiddishkeit in Israel yes there are challenges there, small compared to ours.
I'm begining with the premise the internet should be avoided at all reasonable costs.
Apparantly your desire to have a blog is above and beyond reasonable costs then?
Unfourtunatly the relationship between theory/belief and practice is very distant and far to us flesh and blood.
First off, baruch Hashem for Anonymous. Good job.
Second, why in the world do charedi rabbis keep fighting, and losing, all their battles? This time they're going to stop the internet? Are they kidding? What's next? Banning phones? Well, why not? You can speak lashon harah and engage in phone sex over the phone, so no one in Lakewood should have it. Can't we just ask people to make every effort to utilize it but to act in a prudent, proper and halachic manner?
Ain apitropus laarayos.
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