Friday, November 04, 2005

Lakewood vaad set to endorse

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...Rabbi Moshe Z. Weisberg, a prominent Orthodox leader in Lakewood, offered a simple reason why McGreevey turned a 3,235-vote deficit into a 3,265-vote advantage: an influential Jewish council, the Vaad, endorsed McGreevey in 2001 but not in 1997."He made himself aware of a lot of the issues that affect the community here, and I guess his message was basically a mirror of the feelings of the community," Weisberg said. "His message resonated in the community, and the feeling was we should support him. And that was basically the difference from the first campaign. He was basically an unknown, not that aware of the issues in the community."
The nonpartisan Vaad — Hebrew for council — meets with candidates and judges their record and responses to issues that affect Lakewood, not just Jewish issues. Weisberg said the community trusts the council, which he said can generate a 10,000-vote swing.
The group has not yet decided between Republican Doug Forrester and Democrat U.S. Sen. Jon S. Corzine but probably will this weekend."It's a little bit premature for me to guess how it's going to go," Weisberg said. "But they both came across as very credible and sensitive to the issues of the community."

It be an outrage if they end up supporting tax and cut, liberal Corzine; which means the'll end up supporting Corzine!
posted by Yeshiva Orthodoxy
at 1:08 PM

8 Comments:

Anonymous Somedude said...

10,000 vote swing? I highly doubt they still control that many votes. I live in Lakewood and I don't vote with the Vaad. I believe I'm capable of (gasp) forming my own opinions! The horror!!!!

1:34 PM  
Blogger Yeshiva Orthodoxy said...

Block voting has its benefits.

A Vaad that is controlled by an institution that has its' own interests is frankly, immoral.

It should be completely independent and cater to everyone equally.

1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly in 2001 there were almost riots before the elections and Reb Yeruchem Shlit"a had to come and explain why the Yeshive really cared for the Yungerleit even though the Vaad endorsed candidateds that would not be benificial to the rest of the people.

2:14 PM  
Blogger Yeshiva Orthodoxy said...

I dislike speaking in anyway against the Yeshiva. But right is right.

Yeshiva gets tons of benefits by controlling all aspects of the town so they hate to let go.

As I previously wrote:

The election is futile. The winners and losers will be decided by a Vaad, how well meaning they may be, that have great conflicts of interest (money & land distribution; tax exemptions etc.). What directly benefits them, at times conflicts with the interest of the broader community.
One day there will be sensible change. For now just pay your property tax on time.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous Somedude said...

Block voting has its benefits.

A Vaad that is controlled by an institution that has its' own interests is frankly, immoral.


I agree with you there. But forget the institution for a second. How about a group of wealthy businessmen and investors? To think that they don't have their own agenda(s) in mind when making such decisions is foolish IMO. For this reason (and a few others, such as what they did to Rabbi Schenkolewski in the past), I no longer vote in local elections. I have no idea who to vote for.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Yeshiva Orthodoxy said...

Put the vaad under control of independent people with impeccable character.
Their deliberations must be in public and transparent.
Their decisions must be made through the consensus of the community.
The township's, rulings, happenings, giveaways,deals, be publicized.

Vote- with your voice.

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Somedude said...

Put the vaad under control of independent people with impeccable character.
Are there such people? And even if there are, there are people who will ahve a problem with them. You know it.
Their deliberations must be in public and transparent.
Agreed.
Their decisions must be made through the consensus of the community.
That's a tough one. Who's to say what the community thinks? And just because I don't show up at a Vaad meeting, my needs don't count?
The township's, rulings, happenings, giveaways,deals, be publicized.
Forget it. Will never happen.
Vote- with your voice.
You can do that now.

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"such as what they did to Rabbi Schenkolewski in the past"

Excuse me, but what Shenky did was itself wrong: that is, he took money for his school to approve a polluting co-regeneration plant in Lakewood. There are serious health issues involved; who gave him the right to decide such issues for the entire community?

I say enough with these power brokers; let the yeshiva get out of the election business.

5:35 PM  

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